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[Rick]

Questa è una notizia importante che farà prudere le mani a + di qualcuno a Washington

 

 

 

EurasianLover ‏@EmeraudeALB 14 h14 ore fa

 

The #PetroYuan Is Born! #Gazprom Now Settling All #Crude to #China in #Renminbi http://bit.ly/1Ixgzcc  #oil

 

[Rick]

 

 

EurasianLover ‏@EmeraudeALB 14 h14 ore fa

 

Forza Italia Party to Urge Lifting of Anti-#Russian Sanctions http://bit.ly/1cMHN3d  #sanctions #Berlusconi

 

 

 

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[Rick]

Petr Shelomovskiy @shelomovskiy

 

Series of explosions and clouds of black smoke for several minutes over #Donetsk skyline direction airport & train st

 

 

 

[Rick]

Li mettono in carica

li tolgono

li denunciano

li incarcerano

li liberano

li rimettono in carica

li ridenunciano

e via così dicendo

nel solito imperterrito chaos mentale che avvolge gli ukry

 

 

The Interpreter @Interpreter_Mag

 

Ukraine Live: Nalyvaichenko Sacks Leaderships Of SBU Anti-Corruption Directorate And Rivne Regional Office.

 

http://www.interpret...etsk-area/#8796

Messaggio modificato da Rick il 12 giugno 2015 - 16:10

[Rick]

 

Sujata Rao @reutersSujataR

With moratorium, Ukraine risks demand for immediate payment on all bonds http://reut.rs/1MOxrwF  via @ReutersUK

4:44 PM - 12 Jun 2015

 

 

Reuters UK

With moratorium, Ukraine risks demand for immediate payment on all...

 

By Reuters UK @ReutersUK

 

Ukraine's creditors could invoke clauses allowing them to demand payment of all its bonds at a stroke if Kiev carries out its threat to slap a moratorium on debt payments, a top source familiar with

 

 

http://t.co/bQ3QdWdpu4

Messaggio modificato da Rick il 12 giugno 2015 - 21:25

[gianpi]

oggi il mio amico putin è venuto in italia, e berlusconi cosa fa?

[Rick]

Una falsa petizione per bombardare la russia viene firmata con convinzione negli usa

 

mentre a Mosca la gente parla di assurdità !

 

'Are you crazy?' People in Moscow widely oppose fake petition  farsi esplodere in America (VIDEO)

 

http://rt.com/news/2...e-america-poll/

 

 

 

Messaggio modificato da Rick il 12 giugno 2015 - 22:53

[vasia]

Una falsa petizione per bombardare la russia viene firmata con convinzione negli usa

 

mentre a Mosca la gente parla di assurdità !

 

'Are you crazy?' People in Moscow widely oppose fake petition  farsi esplodere in America (VIDEO)

 

http://rt.com/news/2...e-america-poll/

 

 

 

Rossia today, sapiami bene da chi e finanzata e politica fa. 

 

 

Ti do Io altre notize migliore http://news.liga.net...d_protiv_rf.htm

[vasia]

La Droga arriva dal Unione Vamale in Unione Europeia.  Grazie Alla Saacashvili questa cosa e stata fermata.    http://news.liga.net...iyu_ukrainy.htm

 

Doverti dire grazie a quello che odiate, per che non ha permesso piu di distrugere il vostro futuro.  Mi referisco hai filorussi da questo forum. 

[vasia]

Come si vive in Mariupoli, a 20 km dal conflito militare creto da PUTLER.

 

http://tvrain.ru/tel...sle_dnr-389068/

http://joinfo.com/wo...m-right-in.html

[vasia]

L'investimento russo in Crimea dopo la occupazione di PUTLER 

 

http://24tv.ua/news/...47&tag=ukrayina

[Rick]

Rossia today, sapiami bene da chi e finanzata e politica fa.

 

leggi e cerca di capire :

 

"While a majority of Americans asked by a US journalist to support President Obama's "plan" to nuke Russia signed a fake petition to do so"

 

 

ah ... ci sei anche tu

 

Bravo bravo

 

alla fin della fiera  sempre li andate a finire , in braccio a santa madre russia

[Rick]

La Droga arriva dal Unione Vamale in Unione Europeia.  Grazie Alla Saacashvili questa cosa e stata fermata.    http://news.liga.net...iyu_ukrainy.htm

 

Doverti dire grazie a quello che odiate, per che non ha permesso piu di distrugere il vostro futuro.  Mi referisco hai filorussi da questo forum. 

 

 

Cioè fammi capire

 

secondo te la droga attraversa l'intera Ukraina

 

spesso l'intera moldova

 

provenendo da Iran e turchia

 

MA IL PROBLEMA é l'unione vamale se non come dite spesso LA PMR ?

 

 

Sgrassati il cervello Vladislove

 

e soprattutto non sopravvalutar il ruolo di governatore

 

che in Ukr non è un plenipotenziario

 

a meno che ....

 

il buon MAngia Cravatte non intenda trasforma la regione di Odessa nel suo feudo

 

 

Il fare del Caudillo in fin dei conti ce l'ha

 

e questo ulteriore step verso il baratro

dell' Ukr

sarebbe solo un'ulteriore conferma del disastro del post Maidan

Messaggio modificato da Rick il 13 giugno 2015 - 16:02

[Rick]

Come si vive in Mariupoli, a 20 km dal conflito militare creto da PUTLER.

 

http://tvrain.ru/tel...sle_dnr-389068/

http://joinfo.com/wo...m-right-in.html

 

 

memoria breve eh ....

 

 

questa era MAriupol il 9 maggio 2014

 

youtu.be/mj1RRlGkVn4 

 

https://youtu.be/dlSzewPMhD4 

 

https://youtu.be/pvLFUQqvzuQ 

 

 

Visto quanto amore per Kiev e quanto scarso sentimento indipendentista ?

 

e se vuoi ce ne sono molti altri di video che potrebbero spiegarti molte cose

 

Vuoi i video delle code a Mariupol

per votare il referendum sull'indipendenza ?

 

Tieni

scegli tu :

https://www.youtube....upol referendum

 

 

LA verità non piace caro VladisLove

 

e si cerca di nasconderla anche già a solo un anno di distanza

 

ma la verità è che mariupol

 

oggi

 

è una citta occupata da Kiev

 

e tenuta in ostaggio per la guerra di potere di Kiev sull'est ukr

[Rick]

L'investimento russo in Crimea dopo la occupazione di PUTLER 

 

http://24tv.ua/news/...47&tag=ukrayina

 

Chissà

 

forse in Crimea preferirebbero vivere in un paese

 

prossimo al fallimento

 

con il 50/60 % di inflazione annua

 

con stipendi da miseria

 

con pensioni appese ad un filo

 

con la possibilità di essere richiamati per andare in guerra

 

e forniture di luce e gas triplicate di prezzo

 

 

Può essere , si vede che ....

 

in crimea i russi avranno portato anche una epidemia di masochismo

Messaggio modificato da Rick il 13 giugno 2015 - 16:18

[vostok]

https://twitter.com/...206531993341952

 

 

Local elections in #Moldova : Socialist candidate wins Chisinau, the capital, from current pro-US-NATO-EU mayor.

[vostok]

https://twitter.com/...122279755112449

 

#Ukraine's channel 112 - that previously contracted political prisoner journo #Kotsaba -may lose its license #Украина

 

[vostok]

il leader delle recenti proteste a kiev è stato preso a legnate

 

[Rick]

Protest la Donețk. Oamenii cer încetarea bombardamentelor

 

Peste 200 de persoane s-au adunat luni la Donețk pentru a cere autorităților rebele încetarea tirurilor și a bombardamentelor îndreptate asupra acestui oraș, bastion al separatiștilor proruși în estul Ucrainei, transmite agerpres.ro citat de UNIMEDIA.

Protestatarii, care au manifestat în fața sediului așa-zisului guvern al autoproclamatei republici populare Donețk, au fost locuitori ai unui cartier situat în apropiere de ruinele aeroportului care constituie în această zonă linia de demarcație între pozițiile rebelilor și cele ale armatei ucrainene.

În timpul acțiunii de protest, unii manifestații i-au acuzat pe luptătorii separatiști de stocarea de arme în cartierul lor, făcând astfel ca această parte a orașului să devină o țintă pentru soldații Kievului, în timp ce alții le-au cerut rebelilor să lanseze atacuri împotriva pozițiilor ucrainene la Piski și Avdiivka, două localități situate în apropiere de aeroport și de unde sunt lansate bombardamente asupra zonei în care ei locuiesc.

Luptele în jurul aeroportului din Donețk au început în mai 2014. După luni de confruntări intense, aeroportul a căzut în mâinile rebelilor în ianuarie 2015.

În pofida armistițiului, în vigoare de la mijlocul lunii februarie, mai multe incidente soldate cu victime au loc frecvent în estul ucrainean, unde peste 6.400 de persoane au pierit în conflictul care durează din aprilie 2014.

În ultimele săptămâni, ostilitățile s-au intensificat în mai multe puncte de pe linia frontului, generând temeri privind o nouă escaladare a tensiunilor, în contextul în care eforturile diplomatice pentru relansarea procesului de pace prevăzut în acordurile de la Minsk au rămas până în prezent fără rezultate concrete.

[Rick]

Lettura consigliata !

 

Putin's Ukraine Strategy Brilliantly Explained by Top Russian Politician (Video)

 

 

Well worth watching, but if you dont have the time the transcript is below.

Among other things he says that Ukraine will attack Russia at the behest of the US if they are successful in subduing the rebellious East - so Russia has no choice but to support the rebels.

Starikov is a fixture on Russian TV - and is a very popular author and speaker who has started a conservative party called “The great fatherland party”.  One of his more controversial positions (to westerners) is that Stalin was a great leader, unfairly maligned and misunderstood.

Interesting note:  the intellectual level of discourse in Russia in politics is head and shoulders above what it is in the US.  Starikov is a classic example of this.  

 

 

0:00

Before we talk about what’s going to happen, I suggest we agree that feelings don’t factor into this. Because we’re going to talk about serious matters and emotions will only be a hindrance.

0:14

Let me take a pen to draw some things… So, what have our geopolitical opponents been doing for many centuries? They have a specific routine, check this:

0:26

India, year 1949. Our British “partners”, due to USSR winning WWII, are getting pushed out of the country.

0:40

Yes, the Indian people were clamoring for independence, but they could keep clamoring for another century if not for Soviet tanks in Berlin - and, more importantly, Soviet tanks in nearby Korea.

0:56

So in this situation, England and other colonial powers had to also show they’re for freedom and equality, so they had to free India

1:06

So what do they do? They divide India into two parts. They create Pakistan. For those who don’t know, Pakistan never existed before, it’s an artificial state

1:16

The very name “Pakistan” was made up by Indian college students - in London, of course. The country was torn in half according to religious affiliation:

1:26

Hindus go to “India”, Muslims go to “Pakistan”. So, people get displaced, national tragedy…

1:36

What was actually done? India [broke free] - they created anti-India. And called it Pakistan. So when they lose control over a country, they make a counterbalance.

1:49

And then, simply sic them on each other, support terrorist organizations, and so on. Pakistan it a hotbed of [Islamic terrorism] even now, India has local terrorists and separatists as well…

2:02

I’ll point this out again: When a land slips from their control, they make a counterbalance. India - anti-India.

2:15

Same year, 1949, China is gripped by a three-year civil war. In 1945, Japanese were kicked out, they talked for a year, and started fighting.

2:28

USSR supports Chairman Mao, USA supports Chiang Kai-Shek. Mao wins. What do the Americans do?

2:37

They make anti-China. They evacuate remainder of Chiang Kai-Shek’s men, shield them with their navy, and create Taiwan… On the island of Fomosa. China - anti-China.

2:52

There are plenty of other very similar examples, I won’t get into them now… Russia, 2011 elections. What did they do?

3:00

Navalny, Bolotnaya protests, “white bands” everywhere, discord in all political parties - Russia is on the verge of a coup…

3:15

The whole thing ended positively - Putin [was democratically elected] president. They lost the influence over Russia. What do they do? They make anti-Russia.

3:26

Where? In Ukraine. As soon as Putin became president, as soon as they realized they can’t destabilize the country from within, they started making anti-Russia in Ukraine.

3:41

But, you know, they use “free market” principles. Controlled by them, yes, but still “free”. So they were planning use the [Ukrainian] elections in 2015 and make them “free”

3:58

But, you know we forced their hand, Yanukovich refused to sign Euroassociation, so they had to go with the bloody, illegal coup instead - to blame Russia for it, and create anti-Russia

4:15

So what are the prospects? Same as everywhere else. They make a counterbalance, give it money, weapons, and eventually - force it to attack

4:29

So, after the coup they started preparing Ukraine for a war with Russia. Is it weaker? Of course. But it’s not a small state, it has over 40 million population!

4:44

If USA arm and indoctrinate them enough, it could work very well. And it’s important to understand that they don’t need Ukraine to win, they just need the war to happen.

4:59

The more Russians and Ukrainians eliminate each other - the better for Americans, so that’s what they want.

5:07

What can Russia do? In Ukraine, forces appear that do not want this scenario to happen - DPR and LPR.

5:30

So, Ukraine was made into anti-Russia, and DPR and LPR are anti-anti-Russia.

5:39

But they appeared on their own - that’s important. We support them, however, because while they exist they prevent Ukraine [from attacking Russia].

5:58

While the people of Donbass are fighting to change the course of Ukraine, it can not turn to attack Russia.

6:07

And this is exactly what happens. Yes, the Kiev regime is screaming that Russia is the aggressor, that Russian troops are invading - but they did not declare war or martial law, did not sever diplomatic ties,

6:20

they even, according to some Orwellian logic, buy [discounted] coal and electricity from the “invaders”.

6:27

Can you imagine USSR buying Ruhr coal from Hitler during the war? Of course not.

6:37

So, let’s sum this up - without emotions. If we don’t counteract the American plans of creating anti-Russia from Ukraine, they’re certainly sic it on Russia.

6:54

Together with the ISIS advance through Central Asia, we’d have on two fronts, the same way we were set up in 1930s - Japan advancing through Mongolia, and Hitler through Poland

7:10

By the way, for a long while Poland was supposed to be his ally on the path to Moscow - but then plans changed, so to speak

7:18

So, if we betray DPR/LPR, if they are destroyed militarily - the American plan will be brought into action

7:33

The fall of Donetsk and Lugansk would mean Russia is next, within 5 years or so. Direct attack, or some sort of border conflict. They have the perfect excuse - “Give back Crimea, [damn its population]!”

7:49

And the West will support this excuse. So, Russia’s [geopolitical] interests, even without considering our nation’s moral obligations - supporting our brothers, the oppressed, etc, -

8:07

without emotions, purely pragmatically, Russia can’t throw Donetsk and Lugansk to the wolves for these reasons.

8:14

Now, another very important question: Can Russia officially recognize these territories?

8:23

If we do, the [Anti-Russia] scenario will be put into action: Ukraine will say - they are now separate states, we will deal with them later, first we have to deal with their masters in Russia and take back Crimea!

8:42

So, when DPR and LPR separate from Ukraine, this whole American scenario becomes viable again.

8:49

So, even if this opinion is unpopular, in the common interest of Russian world [all Slavic countries] , DPR and LPR have to stay part of Ukraine.

9:08

They are holding Ukraine back from being dragged into a war with Russia.

9:17

This is where our foreign minister’s declarations about Ukraine’s territorial integrity stem from, this is why we keep trying to get them to settle things by negotiation…

9:30

Because Americans aren’t doing that great financially, either. We have to support Donetsk and Lugansk - that’s 2-3 million people, and they have to support the rest of Ukraine - that’s 40 million.

9:47

So, those that understand the rules of this game know what has to be done, and the hotheads among our patriots do not.

10:00

That is the difference between a commander on the ground, who has to take a specific objective, and the general in charge, who has to win the war as a whole, not focus on one spot.

10:15

Currently, D/LPR are fighting not just for their interests - they are fighting for the lives of 40 million Ukrainians who, if D/LPR lose, would be sent to fight Russia and die by the hundreds of thousands, even millions.

10:35

So Donetsk and Lugansk are protecting the Russian world as a whole - both Ukraine and Russia. So we can never “betray” them [and let them be defeated] - that would be the same as betraying ourselves.

10:48

Just like denying Crimea the right to reunification would be [betraying ourselves] - it would lead to riots in Moscow within a couple months.

11:00

So, when you try to understand geopolitical actions - don’t judge based on emotions.

11:06

President of Belarus flies to Kiev - no emotions, calculate why. He says something about the dollar - same. If you try to understand what’s going on in D/LPR based on emotions, you won’t be able to.

 

 

 

 

Messaggio modificato da Rick il 15 giugno 2015 - 19:46