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#1241 Rick

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Posted 28 August 2015 - 23:44

sì, dimenticavo le virgolette scrivendo prestigiosa

 

poiché della fonte originale si sono perse le tracce 

 

anzi, rt specifica che siano stati gli hacker di Kiev ad aver modificato e pubblicato un articolo datato da mesi

 

(?)

 

 

ecco appunto

 

sapevo che c'erano queste voci in giro ....

 

MA che importa ???

 

tanto oramai nel democraticissimo e liberissimo mondo occidentale

 

la notizia ha già fatto il giro del mondo

 

 

come dice la celebre aria  :

 



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Posted 29 August 2015 - 10:17

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#1243 vasia

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Posted 29 August 2015 - 12:52

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intanto nel parlamento ucraino........

 

 

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per stomaci forti, dedicato a tutti gli ucraini che sfoderano orgogliosi i simboli nazisti

 

 

immagini prese da lvov

 

 

'Blood oozed through the soil at grave sites. You could see the pits move, some of them were still alive': The secrets of Ukraine's shameful 'Holocaust of Bullets' killing centre where 1.6million Jews were executed
 

 

 

http://www.dailymail...tter_mailonline

 

Россиянин приехал в Донецк бороться с украинскими фашистами

 

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#1244 Anatolii L.

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Posted 29 August 2015 - 12:56

Esteri
Ucraina, l’esercito della Moldavia parteciperà alle esercitazioni Nato
L'annuncio del ministero della Difesa moldavo. Il comandante dell’esercito: “Miglioreranno le capacità di difesa del nostro paese”

http://www.ilvelino....5-34a7009e4813/

E poi?

Vieni a casa mia prenderemo un tè insieme (alla NATO)?

#1245 Rick

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Posted 29 August 2015 - 13:54

Esteri
Ucraina, l’esercito della Moldavia parteciperà alle esercitazioni Nato
L'annuncio del ministero della Difesa moldavo. Il comandante dell’esercito: “Miglioreranno le capacità di difesa del nostro paese”

http://www.ilvelino....5-34a7009e4813/

E poi?

Vieni a casa mia prenderemo un tè insieme (alla NATO)?

 

 

Non è la prima volta ...

 

la pressione della NATO sui paesi non allineati

 

è sempre notevole .... insistente ... irrispettosa del volere popolare ...

 

strafottente delle costituzioni che ne dichiarano la neutralità



#1246 Anatolii L.

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Posted 29 August 2015 - 20:08

Zaporozhye chiede uno status speciale per la regione

 

 

 



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Posted 30 August 2015 - 00:31

Ukraine's prosecutor has brought criminal case of kidnapping & torture against MP Oleh Lyashko http://lifenews.ru/mobile/news/160348 

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Posted 30 August 2015 - 01:02

Ukraine asks Russia for lower gas prices for winter season

 

http://bigstory.ap.o...5751ef817c7aba5



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Posted 31 August 2015 - 13:23

Журналист показал россиян у Иловайска-2014: стоп-кадры из видео

 

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В интернет попали фотоснимки российских военнослужащих на позициях под Иловайском накануне расстрела выходивших из окружения колонн сил АТО. Запись об этом у себя в Facebook разместил автор видеозаписи, руководитель общественного проекта Дорожный контроль Ростислав Шапошников. 

 

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#1250 Anatolii L.

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Posted 31 August 2015 - 17:47

 

Скоро на Украине главным национальным праздником станет День сурка

 

A breve in Ucraina la festa più importante del paese sarà "il giorno della marmotta" (per chi conosce il film)



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Posted 02 September 2015 - 00:03

Assalto dei nazionalisti al Parlamento di Kiev, l’Ucraina rischia di precipitare nel caos
Almeno un poliziotto è morto, decine di feriti mentre la Rada votava la nuova legge sulla decentralizzazione che concede maggior autonomia al Donbass filorusso
 


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Posted 02 September 2015 - 06:30

sì, dimenticavo le virgolette scrivendo prestigiosa

 

poiché della fonte originale si sono perse le tracce 

 

anzi, rt specifica che siano stati gli hacker di Kiev ad aver modificato e pubblicato un articolo datato da mesi

 

(?)

 

 

The Murky Myth of the “2000 Russian War Dead” in Ukraine

 

http://readrussia.co...ead-in-ukraine/

 

articolo scritto da Mark Galeotti  , noto russofobo di RFE RL

 

 

 

 

Despite Moscow’s litany of denials, Russian regular troops – not holidaying volunteers, not Cossack patriots, not just mercenaries and adventurers – are fighting in the Donbas. That we know, and for many in the West the Kremlin’s very mendacity has become an insidious, burning irritant. Hence the time and effort some put into debunking claims, assembling intricate geolocated and photo-backed evidence proving… what everyone already knows. Perhaps no wonder then that when what seemed like evidence of Russia’s presence in Ukraine appeared, so many gleefully jumped on it. A shame that it so quickly unraveled, in some ways a depressingly perfect metaphor for the way truth has become such an uncertain and negotiable process in this miserable conflict.

The story is quite well known by now. Of all places a Forbes blog seemed, as near as I can tell, to be the first place which splashed that “Russia Inadvertently Posts Its Casualties In Ukraine: 2,000 Deaths, 3,200 Disabled.” The story was that the website of the Delovaya zhizn’ (no, I’d never heard of it, either, but it’s one of those conveniently anonymous names everyone thinks they might) accidentally leaked a document on payments for dead and disabled servicemen that proved a year’s fighting had led to 2,000 Russian soldiers on duty dying and 3,200 being disabled. The page was quickly removed, apparently because of censorship – after all, disclosing data on losses is a crime.

Not so fast

So far, so smoking gun, and not surprisingly it then did the rounds as mainstream news outlets jumped on the story. And yet, soon enough different people from different angles were beginning to question it.

The ever-perceptive Leonid Bershidsky quickly called it a fake, not least because of a grammatical slip and the actual registration of the website: “Bs-life.ru – come on, are you serious?”

AP’s Nataliya Vasilyeva noted that “two days of Western officials retweeting a Forbes report quoting a Ukrainian web-site quoting a non-existent Russia news web-site re Ukraine” simply demonstrated that “the ease of spreading rumors in the digital world is astonishing.” 

Ruslan Leviev’s WarInUkraine team unequivocally labeled it a fake. They noted that the report referred to a special government decree on supporting the victims which was unnecessary and dug into the Delovaya zhizn’ website to demonstrate its…questionable foundations. 

For my part, I wondered about the military details. First of all, 2,000 dead sounded like an awful lot for a year’s off-and-on fighting in which not only did the Russian regulars only represent a part of the total fighting force, but they tended to have the advantage in artillery and armor. On average, the Soviets lost 1,500 or so for each year of the Afghan war – out of the 100,000 or so troops there on average at any time. Yes, that was a war fought against an enemy without much artillery, but also one with many major operations, and one in which the high command did not care that much about soldiers’ lives. 

Perhaps more to the point the Ukrainians – whom we are told need to be armed because the Russians have all the high-power firepower – have “only” lost around 1,700 soldiers in the same or a longer period. Furthermore, the unofficial estimate from the field is that for every Russian casualty, the local auxiliaries and militias suffer one, so that would suggest 4,000 losses on their side to 1,700 Ukrainians. If the Ukrainians really are that much more deadly and bullet-proof, why the great clamor to train and arm them?

And the real irony? RT, the poster child for modern information warfare, did some good journalism, sending someone to try and track down the address where Delovaya zhizn’ was meant to operate and generally doing the kind of thing news organizations are meant to do. Seriously, when RT can put other news agencies to shame, even though clearly it has every interest in debunking this story, there is something strange going on.

What’s going on?

Of course, the story might have been exactly as it seemed, quickly covered up by a Kremlin smoke-and-mirrors op. But one thing the Kremlin has not demonstrated of late is a seamless professionalism in its cover-ups and misdirections. From press spokesman Peskov’s now-infamous watch and yacht honeymoon to handling Putin’s absence this spring, Moscow has tended to be slow, clumsy, and downright stupid in its information black ops, so why could be assume such a neat clean up job here? 

So what is going on? I have no idea, and in many ways that’s the point. 

A Kremlin cover-up of a real source? As you’ll gather, I doubt it, but it is remotely possible.

A subtle Russian ploy to undermine those who so quickly assumed the document was accurate? Could be, I suppose, although it does give the Kremlin infowarriors rather more credit than I think they deserve.

A cunning Western provocation, whether government or private initiative, to backfoot the Russians? Maybe.

Just someone messing with people’s minds, in an age when anyone with a computer can create identities and spread their own inventions? I suppose it could be.

Someone wanting to make the point that we seek out and run with the “truth” that fits our preconceptions? Possible, although the more time passes without a “hah, fooled you” follow-up, the less plausible this is.

Welcome to the infinitely malleable, insubstantial, here-today-gone-tomorrow world of modern information warfare, as well as a world in which a blog is a news site, and the rush to publish fast trumps the urge or need to publish well. An age when, to quote Jonathan Swift, “Falsehood flies, and the Truth comes limping after it” – typically without having to worry about fact-checkers or provenance…



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Posted 02 September 2015 - 06:57

Ambasciata ucraina in Polonia - I Campioni di photoshop!

 

Il giornalista ucraino Anatoly Shariy ha smascherato ancora una volta i falsi ridicoli che producono le autorità del regime golpista di Kiev. Questa volta, ad essere smascherata, è stata l'Ambasciata ucraina in Polonia. 

Le false congratulazioni polacche ai "nazionalisti" ucraini: la manomissione con photoshop di un maxischermo pubblicitario. Sono così ridicoli che non ci resta che ridere della loro idiozia.

 

 


http://tass.ru/en/world/817723

 

Caos a Kiev: leader del "Euromaidan" lascia il partito di Poroshenko

Il deputato ucraino Oleg Musiy, in forza alla fazione parlamentare "Blocco Petro Poroshenko", ha deciso di lasciare il partito del Presidente oligarca in quanto in disaccordo con gli emendamenti per la modifica della costituzione ucraina. Lo ha comunicato con un messaggio apparso sulla sua pagina Facebook.
"Vi chiedo di comunicare la mia decisione di lasciare la fazione nel corso della prossima riunione parlamentare", ha comunicato Musiy nel suo messaggio.
Il deputato si è detto indignato per il fatto che l'opposizione ed il blocco di governo abbiano deciso di votare le modifiche alla Costituzione dell'Ucraina per la decentralizzazione del potere.

Oleg Musiy è stato uno dei capipopolo del cosiddetto "Euromaidan". E' stato Ministro della Sanità nel governo ad interim formatosi dopo il colpo di stato di stato del Febbraio 2014. E' poi diventato deputato nella Verkhovna Rada tra le file del partito dell'oligarca Poroshenko.



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Posted 02 September 2015 - 07:31

ma insomma per i giornali italiani Svoboda non è più il partito "liberale filoeuropeo"  ???

 

devo dire che c era parecchia bella gente in piazza

 

 

 Yurij Sirotjuk, ex parlamentare, si scaglia contro la Guardia Nazionale, che peraltro contribuì a fondare nella primavera del 2014 per legalizzare le bande che avevano permesso di realizzare il golpe di febbraio.

 

 

 

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Igor Shvajka di Svoboda, ex ministro golpista (restò in carica fino al dicembre del 2014)

 

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qui vediamo Shvajka a lavoro a dicembre 2013. A febbraio 2014, dopo il golpe, è diventato Ministro delle Politiche Agrarie, dove resto fino a dicembre

 

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ecco la maglietta di uno dei partecipanti all'assedio di oggi sotto la Verkhovaja Rada di Kiev, nella foto vicino a Yurij Sirotjuk.

 

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il post su FB di  Oleg Tjagnibok, capo di Svoboda, presente negli scontri sotto la Verkhovnaja Rada

 

 

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 "Avakov ha trovato così in fretta i colpevoli", è evidente che "si tratta di una provocazione da lui pianificata", aggiungendo che gli scontri sono iniziati quando le "aquile di Avakov" hanno attaccato, "calpestando i ritratti degli eroi membri di Svoboda caduti al fronte".

 

 

 

 

ed eccolo qui, guardate quanto è carino

 

 

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ma tutti i suoi amichetti dove sono finiti??

 

come non dimenticare queste foto......

 

 

 

 

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vorrei ricordare che il caro mccain s'è fatto fotografare con gente di gran lunga peggiore come lui

 

Andriy Volodymyrovych Parubiy 

 

 

 

 

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per chi non lo sapesse costui è  ...... 

 

https://en.wikipedia.../Andriy_Parubiy

 

"..........In 1991 he founded the Social-National Party of Ukraine together with Oleh Tyahnybok;[8] the party combined radical nationalism and some neo-Nazi features (by its name and the "Wolfsangel"-like sign)................."

 

 

ovvero questo partito 

 

http://en.wikipedia....arty_of_Ukraine

 

che poi è diventato 

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svoboda_(political_party)

 

 

 

vorrei fare anche i miei complimenti agli esponenti del partito democratico che si sono fatti fotografare con questa ignobile bandiera che hanno tanto decantato

 

 

per esempio il caro gianni pittella

 

 

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o il caro cazzulani

 

 

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o come non dimenticare la pagina ufficiale fb  di euromaidanpress dove scrivono pittella cazzulani ma anche kasparov e khodorkhosvky

di come andavano fieri del simbolo neonazista

 

notare in questa foto addirittura una minaccia stile ISIS a Sebastopoli

 

 

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#1255 vostok

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Posted 02 September 2015 - 11:23

quanta tristezza in una sola foto

 

 

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#1256 Rick

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Posted 03 September 2015 - 09:16

quanta tristezza in una sola foto

 
al peggio non c'è mai fine ,,,,

per la serie Washington detta , Kiev scrive ...
 
 
 
 
Ukraine Officially Declares Russia The Enemy, Vows To Join NATO



Ukraine's National Security Council has approved a new military doctrine that declares Russia to be a military opponent and calls for the country to pursue NATO membership.

There was no immediate official reaction from Russia, which denies claims that it has sent troops and equipment to separatist rebels in Ukraine's east, and which opposes Ukraine joining NATO.

The move came amid strong political tensions over President Petro Poroshenko's efforts to get approval of a constitutional change that would devolve some powers to the regions, including the eastern regions held by the rebels.

Opponents say the change would effectively be capitulation to Russia.

It was unclear if the military doctrine's stance against Russia could dilute opposition to the decentralization effort.

The doctrine now goes to Poroshenko for his signature.

At the Security Council meeting, Poroshenko said the doctrine "not only officially establishes the Russian Federation as Ukraine's military opponent, but states the task of relocating military units and creating the necessary military infrastructure in the eastern and southern regions."

He said Ukraine's army must strive to achieve NATO standards to attain membership by 2020.


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Posted 03 September 2015 - 09:32

al peggio non c'è mai fine ,,,,

 
NATO Activates Six New Hubs On Eastern Flank With Russia

Six NATO hubs being established along the alliance's eastern flank went into operation on September 1, the alliance said, in a move responding to a perceived new security threat from Russia.

NATO has been stepping up its role in Eastern Europe to deter potential aggressors and reassure its allies in light of the conflict in Ukraine, where Russia has been condemned for annexing Crimea and backing pro-Moscow separatists.

The six NATO centers -- in Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, and Romania -- are to help on the ground with exercises and planning activities. Each should be staffed with around 40 people by the end of the year.

"They have begun work, but are not yet operating at full capacity," a NATO spokesman said.

NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg is due on September 3 to attend an inauguration ceremony at the Lithuanian command-and-control center.

The decision to establish the so-called NATO Force Integration Units was made at the alliance's Wales summit in September 2014. They are to be fully operational by the next NATO summit, taking place in Warsaw in July 2016, the spokesman said.


Edited by Rick, 03 September 2015 - 09:35.


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Posted 03 September 2015 - 09:37


al peggio non c'è mai fine ,,,,

 

 
 

 

 

Multinational maritime exercise Sea Breeze '15 kicks off in Ukraine to increase stability&protection of the Black Sea

 
 
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Posted 03 September 2015 - 10:32

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Posted 03 September 2015 - 11:21

quelli che capiscano il russo, potrano capire che putler voglie la terza guerra mondiale. Guardate il video piu sopra. non e un faic.